03-13-2023, 11:20 PM
I had a 18v Makita Kit, the white and black models, for about a decade, but the batteries became nearly completely worthless in the last 18 months, and 2 new actual Makita batteries cost 80% the cost of a new drill driver kit with new batteries. Was not going to risk the generic battery replacements.
So, I was using an ancient old Craftsman 9.6v drill, with ~8 feet of 12AWG, to my 18 or 22AH AGM batteries via APP's for any task requiring strength and duration, but the 18Ag AGM battery is 11 Lbs and the cord gets annoying.
Gobs of torque and torque for days though.
The motor could pull as much as 35 amps.
Its showing its age and abuse, but made the cut in the move, the Makita's didnt.
So new drill and driver needed.
Basically dedicating to a battery system, although there are now adapters to use one tool's batteries in another brand tool.
I had it narrowed my decision to Dewalt, or Ridgid.
The 20v Dewalt kit was 20$ more and comes with 1.3AH batteries, the Ridgid 18v kit comes with 2.0AH batteries.
Beware of marketing. In the US, the battery pack can be rated at its full charge voltage, instead of the nominal voltage of the cells within. In South Africa for instance, Dewalt's battery has to be called 18v, in the USA they call it 20v. Both ridgid and dewalt use 5, 18650 cells, in series.
Ridgid also has the 'lifetime service agreement', meaning if one registers it properly within 90 days of purchase, they fix it free, for original owner, forever, and dead batteries, replaced for free too whether failed or just worn out and no more capacity.
I thought what other cordless tools that I might like to acquire in the future, and checked out what was available between the two brands. I also checked out additional battery prices, and Ridgid has 2, 4.0 Ah battery deal going, for 99$, which is far less than Dewalt's offerings, or pretty much any other brand.
So, I Figured I go Ridgid. I used a Ridgid contractor's Tablesaw at a friend's workshop, and liked it far more than my Makita contractor's tablesaw.
Another friend had the Ridgid heavy ass iron top workshop tablesaw, and it was almost dreamy to use after the portable models.
I've own a corded Ridgid jigsaw for 6+ years now, and like its design and function, though I never bothered to register it for the LSA.
I had no experience with cordless Ridgid products
So the Kit arrives 2 days after ordering, via fedex.
The impact driver's gearbox seems a bit loud and gritty, but had no issues driving 45 3.5 inch screws into old hardened treated lumber.
The drill's trigger is a bit weird, At first I though it was a delay, but more recently realized the first 1/4 inch of movement illuminates the light, and after that range it responds instantly. Takes some getting used to after the instant response of the other drill's triggers, that I am used to.
I don't know why they insist in 6500K+ blueish LEDS. I'd understand if they were super bright, but I find the output a bit lacking and far too blue.
The batteries are not really a super tight fit in the drill/driver.
The battery charger's wall wart says 18v, 60 watt output, but voltage has to go as high as 21v to fully charge 5 18650 in series.
I drained the batteries to 1 of 4 bars, down in to the 17.3vDC range, split the wire and used my clampmeter to see how much amperage it allowed the batteries to feed on. 2 amps exactly, lets assume 21 volts, and 42 watts.
Should take about an hour to fully charge a dead battery to full, but I did not drain completely, nor charge until the charger quit, nor use a timer.
My Makita charger was bulky, had a noisy fan for force flow feed the battery, and would draw far more than 40 watts via my PSW inverter IIRC, but was 15 minute charger too.
Anyway, I don't think the Ridgid has the fit and finish of the Makita's I owned, but I spent more on them 10+ years ago, than the Ridgids 3 weeks ago.
My Makita drill developed gearbox issues, and at the end needed new brushes, but with the capacity free batteries and weird intermittent gearbox issue, i just gave up on the drill entirely rather than order 8$ of brushes and install them.
The Ridgid did not come with the handy hooks to hang on a belt, or waist band or pocket, but I ordered some cheap generics.
Been contemplating a leaf/jobsite blower. Ridgid offers 3.
While comparing the three, I saw that the two ,4.0Ah battery deal for 99$, was now 79$, for the next 5 days.
Trying hard to not click 'add to cart'.
So, I was using an ancient old Craftsman 9.6v drill, with ~8 feet of 12AWG, to my 18 or 22AH AGM batteries via APP's for any task requiring strength and duration, but the 18Ag AGM battery is 11 Lbs and the cord gets annoying.
Gobs of torque and torque for days though.
The motor could pull as much as 35 amps.
Its showing its age and abuse, but made the cut in the move, the Makita's didnt.
So new drill and driver needed.
Basically dedicating to a battery system, although there are now adapters to use one tool's batteries in another brand tool.
I had it narrowed my decision to Dewalt, or Ridgid.
The 20v Dewalt kit was 20$ more and comes with 1.3AH batteries, the Ridgid 18v kit comes with 2.0AH batteries.
Beware of marketing. In the US, the battery pack can be rated at its full charge voltage, instead of the nominal voltage of the cells within. In South Africa for instance, Dewalt's battery has to be called 18v, in the USA they call it 20v. Both ridgid and dewalt use 5, 18650 cells, in series.
Ridgid also has the 'lifetime service agreement', meaning if one registers it properly within 90 days of purchase, they fix it free, for original owner, forever, and dead batteries, replaced for free too whether failed or just worn out and no more capacity.
I thought what other cordless tools that I might like to acquire in the future, and checked out what was available between the two brands. I also checked out additional battery prices, and Ridgid has 2, 4.0 Ah battery deal going, for 99$, which is far less than Dewalt's offerings, or pretty much any other brand.
So, I Figured I go Ridgid. I used a Ridgid contractor's Tablesaw at a friend's workshop, and liked it far more than my Makita contractor's tablesaw.
Another friend had the Ridgid heavy ass iron top workshop tablesaw, and it was almost dreamy to use after the portable models.
I've own a corded Ridgid jigsaw for 6+ years now, and like its design and function, though I never bothered to register it for the LSA.
I had no experience with cordless Ridgid products
So the Kit arrives 2 days after ordering, via fedex.
The impact driver's gearbox seems a bit loud and gritty, but had no issues driving 45 3.5 inch screws into old hardened treated lumber.
The drill's trigger is a bit weird, At first I though it was a delay, but more recently realized the first 1/4 inch of movement illuminates the light, and after that range it responds instantly. Takes some getting used to after the instant response of the other drill's triggers, that I am used to.
I don't know why they insist in 6500K+ blueish LEDS. I'd understand if they were super bright, but I find the output a bit lacking and far too blue.
The batteries are not really a super tight fit in the drill/driver.
The battery charger's wall wart says 18v, 60 watt output, but voltage has to go as high as 21v to fully charge 5 18650 in series.
I drained the batteries to 1 of 4 bars, down in to the 17.3vDC range, split the wire and used my clampmeter to see how much amperage it allowed the batteries to feed on. 2 amps exactly, lets assume 21 volts, and 42 watts.
Should take about an hour to fully charge a dead battery to full, but I did not drain completely, nor charge until the charger quit, nor use a timer.
My Makita charger was bulky, had a noisy fan for force flow feed the battery, and would draw far more than 40 watts via my PSW inverter IIRC, but was 15 minute charger too.
Anyway, I don't think the Ridgid has the fit and finish of the Makita's I owned, but I spent more on them 10+ years ago, than the Ridgids 3 weeks ago.
My Makita drill developed gearbox issues, and at the end needed new brushes, but with the capacity free batteries and weird intermittent gearbox issue, i just gave up on the drill entirely rather than order 8$ of brushes and install them.
The Ridgid did not come with the handy hooks to hang on a belt, or waist band or pocket, but I ordered some cheap generics.
Been contemplating a leaf/jobsite blower. Ridgid offers 3.
While comparing the three, I saw that the two ,4.0Ah battery deal for 99$, was now 79$, for the next 5 days.
Trying hard to not click 'add to cart'.