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Building a chemically safe van
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Pic didn’t load. This looks like it might take a long time to dry.
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  • AbuelaLoca (11-16-2017)
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#62
What kind of paint is on the luan?
I ask because the Elmer's might not stick to it very well if it's latex.
Bare wood would probably be a better base.
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Primer. I’ll test with no primer and see how that goes.
With the amount of wetness, I’d hate to have my panels warp.
I’m thinking I might use some of the maps out of the old atlas book but not the whole ceiling. Not enough pages anyway. I think I can mix in some brown paper.
It is an art project at this point.
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I think this time pics might load. 
I wet the paper and squeezed the water out. Then I drenched it in Elmer’s glue. One had undiluted glue and one was diluted. One on painted board and one on no paint. This is incredibly easy. It should dry much lighter. The one showing white has very wet fresh glue. The other has dried for a couple hours.


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(11-14-2017, 07:32 PM)Snikwahjm Wrote: So far I have a huge stack of AAA books and maps from the 90s which might be age appropriate... I found them in my parents hall closet... might be one way to get rid of them...

If your parents' house has major mold issues, I'd be extremely wary of bringing in any items, especially paper items, from there into your van, as it could transfer the mold from one location to the other.

I work at a place that often has mold-sensitive guests, and it's not unusual to encounter someone who ended up ultimately walking away from all their possessions to escape the mold. I hope yours isn't quite that severe, but regardless I don't think I'd want to risk it it if I were in your shoes just for a design option!

Also, EC3 is a great option to help combat mold issues. We use it all the time where I work as a precaution, and also independent mold tests that prove it works. Though even the manufacturers of that advise to throw out items that are moldy rather than attempt to save them.
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#66
If you experience warping because of the moisture , try spraying water on the back at the same time as your wet paper on the front.
1/4" plywood might be a better choice , the glue is more waterproof than that used on luan .

Your experiments should show how the best way to do it is.
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I absolutely love the look, Snik!!!! Can't wait to see it completely dry!
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It is drying slowly. It doesn’t seem to matter a whole lot if the panel is painted or not. It is sticking fine. Nothing warped. The one I wet, wrung out crumpled and let dry a bit then covered it in glue is drying very flat. No wrinkles. I wonder about letting it dry a bit all wadded up then work the glue into it and spread it out to dry on the panel. That would be the one that looks white in my pictures. It is the same color it started where it is dry. Mauve. Not much texture. The panel was dry when I put the gluey paper down.

The other one was wetter and the glue was thinned and I spread glue on the panel. It stayed wrinkled but it isn’t any where near dry. I don’t know how that will color. I went back after some more glue and looked hard at the other color. We will stick with free. The price is right and the color will work.

These will need a clear coat.

I’ll experiment some more after this is dry.

By the way Formica is paper layered under resins then baked. Then it is glued to partical board...
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Heidi, The maps and such seem ok as far as mold goes since they are in a plastic box. But we are opting for something not so busy and cluttery looking.
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Popeye, the luan is already up there on the van ceiling, the old fabric and it’s foam is stripped off. All I have to do is pull the panel down, cover it and put it back up. Of course it might take a couple days for it to dry. So far this is so easy to do it isn’t funny. The panels are as long as a Chevy Van is wide and 28 or 30 inches wide. The paper could be put on wet or dry but I have a feeling the stuff is easier to work with wet. I may lay some antique maps on top. I’ll experiment with those later maybe test with pages from the index. Sheet music would be cool set in there, too.

I think various shades of brown bags or kraft paper would be fun. Art paper could be colored or stained and put up it is a bit more money but in a way more versatile. I was wrong about the price of the contractors paper. It is 8.88 a roll and they had a $5 rebate. Cheap project. 12.00 for a gallon of glue.
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