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RENERGY SOLAR SALE
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RENOGY IS HAVING A SOLAR SALE THROUGH 6/1/2021.

SOMETHING I'M INTERESTED IN IS THE PHOENIX 200 POWER STATION.  IT IS ON SALE FOR 30% OFF REGULAR PRICE $199.99 CURRENT PRICE $139.99.

HOWEVER IF I'M READING IT RIGHT IT CAN ONLY BE USED TO CHARGE SMALLER THINGS.

ONE OF THE THINGS I NEED IS A WAY TO CHARGE AND USE FANS IN THE VAN ALONG WITH MY PHONE AND MY TABLET/LAPTOP.

I KEEP CHECKING SAN TAN SOLAR AND MOST OF THEIR SOLAR PANELS I COULDN'T LIFT OR CARRY AND SURE AS HELL COULDN'T GET THEM UP ON A VAN OR THE TOP OF A CARGO TRAILER.

RENOGY HAS A 12 VOLT MONO LIGHTER WEIGHT "RV" 100 WATT SOLAR PANEL.  IT IS  SHORTER THAN THEIR REGULAR 100 WATT SOLAR PANEL.   RENOGY HAS THEM ON SALE FOR $106, THEY'RE STILL AROUND $95 ON HOME DEPOTS SITE.
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  • Gr8ful (06-01-2021)
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i've been running a couple light,a couple 12v fans and giant power hungry laptop off a napa 100 amp hour rv battery{$150} and 100w solar panel {$100}for the last couple years just fine until clouds happen then i had to use a battery charger
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  • Texjbird (06-01-2021)
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Is this the Renogy unit you're looking at ? It says 150 watts,,,maybe 200 watts for a few seconds.
And a 20watt panel ,,,barely enough to keep the battery topped off , but probably take a long time to charge from empty.
(think days).
That's just around what your Chromebook needs to charge though and it will take about 90 minutes + or-

The price you have seems to be a huge savings if it is !
https://www.amazon.com/Renogy-Portable-G...B01K60N1DQ


Is there a battery in the A Liner ?
Just a cheapo 400 to 750 watt inverter hooked to the van battery will charge/run those things.
Maybe one device at a time , maybe a couple at a time for little stuff like your phone,,,,a bigger inverter would cover more devices but use more battery.Which you'd have to replace either by driving or solar if parked.
(always keep checking inverters when in use ,,feel the fins for heat,,plug in less stuff if it starts to hurt or give it a breather.
Placing out of the sun with plenty of airflow should be step 1 unless it's cold out.

The glass/aluminum framed panels DO get heavy the bigger they get...but the cost per watt goes way down
The flex panels cost more but are WAY lighter .

My 75 watt glass panel weighs 15# and the 100 watt one is about 20# , can't remember the flex panel weight but around 4#.
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  • Texjbird (06-01-2021)
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I get the desire for an all in one battery pack/ Accessory charging source. But.....

The phoenix 200 power station has a 189 watt hour battery.

That is about 15.75 amp hours, at 12 volts.

The plug in charging port says upto 30 watts. Barely 2.5 amps. if fully discharged it would take 5.5 hours or so to be around 80% charged if the charging source is indeed capacble of 30 watts.
. If lead acid then 80% to 100%, requires no less than 3.5 hours more charge tome to reach full, and if lead acid it really needs to get truly full once a week, or its going to become a much smaller petulant battery quickly.

Here is a 18 amp hour Lead acid battery for 35$

18 amp hours x 12 volts - 216 watt hours.

https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Replaces-...117&sr=8-7

But sticking with doubling the capacity really needed, for lead acid here is a 35 AH battery.

https://www.amazon.com/Weize-Rechargeabl...ljaz10cnVl

35 amp hours x 12 volts = 420 watt hours.

420. hold on, gotta go do something....

This 35 amp hour Lead Acid AGM battery says charge at upto 10.5 amps. That would be ~ 200 watts of solar panel near noon. I regularly exceed the 'maximum' recommended charging amps on such batteries by a factor of 5 and almost never less than 2. I'll worry about that rate when the batteries near end of life and might then, heat excessively.



https://www.amazon.com/Weize-Rechargeabl...ljaz10cnVl

If fully depleted, in 3 hours around noon the battery would be in the 80% charged range, and then 3.5 hours more of lesser and lesser wattage required over hat time to reach full. Excess wattage which can power fans or devices without robbing the battery of the opportunity to reach full charge, which is important for lead acid battery calender longevity.

I take it the Chromebook charges by USB-C?

I am not totally up on USB-C, My newest phone takes it and with the provided usb c cord and some aftermarket ones, All my older USB charging sources work fine, to charge it but these sources, for a chromebook, might charge it only 1/3'd as fast as if it it were capable of delivering 30 watts at 9v instead of 10.2 watts at 5v.

I believe you have a cheapo wanderer or adventurer Renogy controller from American Nomad Patriot?

This is a junky controller, ( I have one) but good enough to prevent overcharging. I've fed it with 2 100 watt panels.

The longer renogy 100 watt mono panel is not really designed to be used as a portable. Where the aluminum corners join, the connection is not really solid, so if one holds the whole weight of the panel, by only one side, the aluminum can flex to a degree which is uncomfortable, and likely degarde the sealant/ adhesive protecting the edge of the panel. I subjected mine to portable duty, but tried to be gentle, using two hands on opposite sides even though I could two finger it with one hand.

The 4 holes to mount the panel basically lock both long sides together. If used as a portable I'd want a brace across these mounting holes which would also make handling it much easier, but still awkward.

When the sun does not shine it is good to have way more battery capacity than 'usually' needed, and when the sun does shine it is great to have way more solar than needed.

Its really hard to have too much solar, and "just enough" is likely that only on the better days with lesser electrical consumption and plenty of sun and a panel facing it through those high harvest hours.

With an A shaped roof, I think one panel on each side of the roof, on its own solar controller would work well to harvest morning and afternoon.

Fans and a chromebook might not require very much electricity.

Depends on the fans and how much the chrome book is on and how low its internal battery is at that point.
When its hot and the fans are on high, those watts feeding the fans are watts not feeding the depleted battery which could really really use them, so its good to have extra.

Any charging is better than no charging. I made a lightweight frame for a 'flexible' 100 watt Sunpower panel. They can only flex so much and so many times before becoming compromised, and I still treat it with Kid gloves. It helps that is is only 7 Lbs but it is still awkward to move about and an errant thumb poorly placed inbetween frame might make a solar cell make a weird and scary crackling sound.

Flex panels are light but cost more, can be dmaaged easier, and even if treater perfectly, will degrade faster.

but The time to failure could be acceptable.

I think adhering a flex panel to coroplast( think the corrugated political signs) to prevent excessive bending is a good strategy to aid in the prevention of over flexing a 'flexible' panel and still allow enough ventilation to prevent them from overheating such as when there is no possibilty of air circulation below them.

S hooks into the eyelets can make it easy to hang up a portable flex panel.
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