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AMP ERROR... DOOOOOOOOH!!!
#11
i deleted my amazon account because of billionaire activist

matching the power output of the stereo to speakers is probably the most important part,high end speaker with a stereo that cant push them will sound like crap

i got kenwood 300w and the stereo has 22 rms so at low/medium levels sounds great,3/4 volume and up it loses it but i dont get near that loud
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#12
From my experience, more people have blown speakers from playing too loud with an underpowered amp.
Brian

2000 Roadtrek 200 Versatile "The Beast" (it has been tamed hopefully)  I feed it and it doesn't bite me.   Angel
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#13
It's called driving the amp or speakers into clipping .
Basically squaring off nice round sound waves gets tweeters really hot ! (Melted , shorted and or flattened coil windings.
Jerking back and forth instead of doing the hula.)
After they're gone and the clipping continues , then the woofers start to heat up.......
rinse repeat.
If you're real lucky the amp will overheat and blow up first , saving your speakers !,, or taking them with it !!

























I'm thinking of selling them....
It seems fitting I should try to return some of what I so much enjoyed taking away !
You're welcome to all with experience of my shows...
And the 24/7 ringing in the ears is absolutely wonderful (actually you won't be hearing it your brain is giving you "fake sounds".

I used to use 1000w amps on JBL 2445J 2" throat 16ohm 100w tweeters , (2 in series for 200w @ 8 ohms)
You just need to know when to stop turning that knob clockwise .
Listen for the tweets getting raspy .............OR stock up on spare speakers (I did both).
stay tuned 
popeye


 Weirdo Overlord : FMS Fleet Ops , Awards , Badges ,  aka Tamerlane the Impaler Mod.
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  • AbuelaLoca (10-09-2020)
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#14
Without an Additional amp any 6x9 speaker I can get will be underdriven, the only variable is by how much.

My Kenwoods always distorted if too loud, and I always backed off to below that distortion level.

Now I can't go that high anyways, as it would be cruel to Fiona.

So All the High end speakers were off the shopping list, and I was pleasantly surprised to find recognizable name brands in the paupers price category.

I think I paid nearly 100$ at circuit city for the now failed kenwood 6x9's in 2001.

They were certainly good enough, for 19 years, upto 7.5 of 10 volume anyway.

Now about 6.5 of 10 and Fiona looks stressed, so I rarely even approach that volume level.
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#15
Good call. Your 6.5 is Fiona’s 22. The stock headunit will push them fine. A little lacking in the lows and so long as you don’t clip them a 9 you’ll be more than fine.


Always love the 50 “watt” headunits with 14 gauge power wire. Some sort of magical mystery quantum amplification going on in there. Lol.

On a ten amp recommended fuse, nine feet from the battery. Or better tapped into another circuit. Lol.

Need to jam loud. Use the preamp outputs in the back, might be five volts, run them into a set of cans or small headphone amp and rock out without upsetting the misses. Or your neighbors.


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#16
not just 50 watts, but 50 watts times 4 channels Wink

There's been times when Fiona has chosen to sit just below the open van front door 6x9 when the music was pretty loud. There was both shaded, softer, harder, warmer cooler sunny, all possible options where she could lay down and perform sentry duty( stupid crows), and she chose to lay under the door speaker, her head 2 feet from it.

The noise she hates more than anything, is compressed air escaping a compressor's tank via a blower or through a nail gun. Even the sound of the compressor motor running is associated with the hiss of escaping compressed air, and she wants maximum distance as quickly as possible from it.

Walking her in a rest stop when an 18 wheeler parks, and the leash becomes tighter than a guitar string away from the source of the noise and my shoulder ligaments get stressed. So now she fears all large moving and slowing trucks.

Anyway, Looking forward to new speakers up front. The rear speakers.....thats an upgrade for after my next paying gig.
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  • AbuelaLoca (10-09-2020)
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#17
The dogs at my old mechanic's shop hated that air hose too !
Lots of high freq content....if you pointed the air at them they would bite at it like some dogs do with a spraying garden hose..
You're not just protecting Fiona's hearing when you leave the volume down.
stay tuned 
popeye


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#18
Speakers arrived. They do have grilles, but the same plastic trim ring which holds the grille through some little tangs, same as my Kenwoods.

The new rectangular grilles arrived, the holes lined up but I had to dremel out the insides 1/16" to get it to fit.

It sounds very similar to the drivers side Kenwood, but the highs are a smidge more crisp.

Theres some issues with previous screw holes being way too big for the studs on the aftermarket grilles, and I had previously made an oval load spreader ~8x11" to move speaker up in the door. The rectangular grilles on top of this oval look pretty ridiculous.

Oval delete coming in in future.
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