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A diesel heating stove - TrainChaser - 10-07-2018
This is new to me. I've never heard of a diesel fuel stove used in a van. This is a marine model.
Here's a video by a Brit in a tiny van, and his source of heat is this stove (6 minutes):
Here is a U.S. dealer for the stove: https://shop.hamiltonmarine.com/products/stove-refleks-ss-66m-5500-btu-27959.html
People seem to like the Dickinson wood stove, which runs about the same price.
I would like to hear any thoughts on this.
RE: A diesel heating stove - Flying kurbmaster - 10-07-2018
(10-07-2018, 02:55 PM)TrainChaser Wrote: This is new to me. I've never heard of a diesel fuel stove used in a van. This is a marine model.I had the Dickenson diesel version in my boat several years back, it worked fine, i now have the Dichenson propane in my van, only reason I didn’t go for the diesel was that it would have meant another fuel to carry. The advantages of the diesel one was that it was very cheap to run, on the boat it was perfect as the boats engine was also diesel and I could run it gravity feed to the stove from the main tank, it is also safer then a propane stove especially on a boat. The disadvantage is that when lightning it, a smell of diesel lingers for awhile, it takes longer to warm up then a propane. If i used one in my van it would mean fitting another tank somewhere higher then the stove as they run on gravity feed. The propane ones heat up almost instantly and seeing that I am cooking with propane it is one less fuel to carry.
Here's a video by a Brit in a tiny van, and his source of heat is this stove (6 minutes):
Here is a U.S. dealer for the stove: https://shop.hamiltonmarine.com/products/stove-refleks-ss-66m-5500-btu-27959.html
People seem to like the Dickinson wood stove, which runs about the same price.
I would like to hear any thoughts on this.
RE: A diesel heating stove - Flying kurbmaster - 10-07-2018
(10-07-2018, 02:55 PM)TrainChaser Wrote: This is new to me. I've never heard of a diesel fuel stove used in a van. This is a marine model.I had the Dickenson diesel version in my boat several years back, it worked fine, i now have the Dichenson propane in my van, only reason I didn’t go for the diesel was that it would have meant another fuel to carry. The advantages of the diesel one was that it was very cheap to run, on the boat it was perfect as the boats engine was also diesel and I could run it gravity feed to the stove from the main tank, it is also safer then a propane stove especially on a boat. The disadvantage is that when lightning it, a smell of diesel lingers for awhile, it takes longer to warm up then propane. If i used one in my van it would mean fitting another tank somewhere higher then the stove as they run on gravity feed. The propane ones heat up almost instantly and seeing that I am cooking with propane it is one less fuel to carry.
Here's a video by a Brit in a tiny van, and his source of heat is this stove (6 minutes):
Here is a U.S. dealer for the stove: https://shop.hamiltonmarine.com/products/stove-refleks-ss-66m-5500-btu-27959.html
People seem to like the Dickinson wood stove, which runs about the same price.
I would like to hear any thoughts on this.
RE: A diesel heating stove - Handy_Dan - 10-07-2018
I switched from propane to kerosene years ago for heating, cooking, and lighting if I want it or need it. Nice dry heat that isn't nearly as dangerous as propane.
My appliances are all portable and unvented, so they do require ventilation, but they are all wick type so they run on a variety of fuels including diesel, lamp oil, and even vegetable oil. Scents can be added also. My van smells like cinnamon apple as I type this, a great fall scent.
The wick type appliances are totally silent, which is also a huge plus for me, and no exterior smoke stack is better for stealth. Unlike with propane, I can safely run heat all night if it's cold enough, without any of the propane explosion or leaking dangers. They're also much more adjustable than propane appliances, and unlike propane, if the flame goes out, they pose no danger at all.
All in all it was a huge upgrade and improvement for me, and I'll never go back to propane. Never once had my carbon monoxide detector go off with kerosene, unlike with propane. The switch also solved all of my previous moisture problems too.
I also have a heat powered wood stove fan that sits on top of my heater to circulate the air, and it requires no power at all, only heat.
Over many years, I have learned that the type of equipment you use can have a very dramatic effect on on every aspect of your life. Simple equipment changes can make a world of difference, and climate control ranks very highly for comfort concerns.
RE: A diesel heating stove - TrainChaser - 10-07-2018
Handy-Dan, have you ever dealt with St. Paul Mercantile in Maryland? They have some kerosene equipment that interest me.
RE: A diesel heating stove - MN C Van - 10-08-2018
$839.
I wonder if just using a hitch cargo box and putting the tank and propane water heater outside would do the trick.
There's a heater core already built into the Caravan for rear passengers- I'm sure the Chrysler blower motor would run the golf carts down quick, and running lines wouldn't be simple like that,
but it would solve the cost, moisture, space and heat problems in one deft swoop.
RE: A diesel heating stove - Handy_Dan - 10-08-2018
(10-07-2018, 07:41 PM)TrainChaser Wrote: Handy-Dan, have you ever dealt with St. Paul Mercantile in Maryland? They have some kerosene equipment that interest me.
I have done fair amount of business with St. Paul Mercantile in the past, but that was before they changed hands.
Their website states that they are the US distributor for butterfly stoves, but looking at their pictures, I have a suspicion that they might be cheap chinese knock offs being sold for higher prices. All of the butterfly and alpaca stoves I've had have been sock-wick stoves, meaning a round wick like the kerosene heaters, not the mop-wick type. I can not give an honest review of mop-wick type stoves.
The one thing I did notice on their site that might be noteworthy is a 20k BTU Blue Flame Vent Free Heater @ http://stpaulmercantile.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=76&products_id=253 That looks like a good price, but I'd still shop around to see if it can beat.
The original SPM had a much larger selection of top quality name brand merchandise, and they stood behind their products and their customers. I honestly don't know if that is still true or not. I know I miss the availability of all the products that the original SPM carried.
Hope this helps,
Cheers!
RE: A diesel heating stove - TrainChaser - 10-08-2018
The didn't change hands, they burned down in 2014, on New Years. Owner John Squires started it in 1998, and he did put it up for sale after the fire, but then decided to reopen it and keep going. The stoves were from China well before the fire, but I don't know if anything changed. But they did put a window in their little ovens, which I thought was a big improvement.
I was thinking of buying the 22-wick stove for canning: http://stpaulmercantile.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=72&products_id=227
His friend, Miles Stair, sells an enormous selection of wicks: http://www.milesstair.com/by_make/Alpaca_Kerosene_Heaters.html
Thanks!
RE: A diesel heating stove - TrainChaser - 10-09-2018
Handy-Dan, I was curious about the wicks you mentioned, so I emailed John, the owner of St. Paul Mercantile. This was his response:
"Both of the 22-wick stoves use mop-wick wicks. In other words, they use 22 cotton wicks that look a lot like what you see on kitchen mops. I also sell a sockwick stove, also called circular-wick. Its wick looks like the wicks used on residential kerosene heaters.
Sockwick stoves burn with a more even blue flame and have a much heavier burner assembly. The down side is that the wicks are more expensive, more difficult to replace, and can only be trimmed about 2 times before needing replacement. Mop-wick stoves require more trimming to get all the wicks at the same height to get a perfect blue flame. But wicks are much cheaper and they last longer because they can be trimmed at least a dozen times before needing to be replaced. --John
RE: A diesel heating stove - Flying kurbmaster - 10-09-2018
So i am curious if you are smelling a scented fuel you are breathing in fumes, that doesn’t seem to healthy to me.