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The Octopus
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#22
Yes there was a lot of taking stuff apart and reassembly in zero viz, deep bounce dive to 250 ft in dry suit, put nut and bolt through plate on bottom leaving you with welts all over your body.  Night time ships bottom searches,  and silly things like if working in 3 man team's and you all 3 failed to get into your dry suit in 3 minutes you get the privilege of doing a 1 mile mud run/crawl and swim back across the creek, lots of fun things!!!
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#23
That’s awful! I’m afraid my scuba diving was limited to beautiful spots like the crystal river in FL and Hawaii.
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#24
Those are the best places. Mozambique was incredible. South east Asia a dream. Australia is on my bucket list. But just tourist diving, above 65 feet, warm water and walk around boat. No more RIBs and no more peeing in my semi dry suit to warm it up.


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#25
Before breaking my back my son & I both have only dove cold water in the Midwest. Munising in the UP is an underwater preserve. Several wrecks in Lake Michigan, one near South Haven in 14' of water but not much left. I wore a heavy farmer john wetsuit & with the dual 150 steels my gear weighed 200#. We had planned a Black Beard dive cruise out of Miami where all you do is dive, fish, & drink all the beer or rum which is included. Sleep in hammacks in a bunk room. Wish we'd have made it.
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The semi dry were the warmest of the suits unless you were diving Viking dry suits. Those things were dry as in your hands were dry. Zero water inside. Then you could dress is silk and warm wool farmer long johns and stay warm even in the arctic . Bloody luxury. The Poseidon reds all leaked and you’d get cold even in a 10mm suit. The 10mm semi dry let in a liter or so but if you added to the liter while suited the embedded titanium would allow your body to heat up the water and you’d be warmer than the Poseidon. The fitted boots for the Poseidon’s were also a pain. I hated weights on my legs. I forgot to return my military BC the issued Zeagle. It was an integrated weight, rear lift design. Was like hanging in a hammock the wrong way round. Best part of the CAF kit other than the Macmillin C8 sniper weapon.


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O'neill came out with a drysuit for surfing in the Late 80's or so. Glued and taped Seams. 4 mm legs, 5mm body and 3mm armpit panels to help ease paddling, even though the dry zipper across th back ot ehthe shoulders was a huge impediment to paddling anyway.

It was so warm that first surf in New Jersey in January with 39f water and 20f air with 30 MPH offshores. For about 3 surf sessions, then the seams started leaking. Whereever it leaked ones skin would later than night would do the pins and needles thing. Eventually it just became a very poor very restricitve wetsuit that was not as good as a real wetsuit. It was also one of the worst rash inducing wetsuits I'v ever had the displeasure of wearing. Still have scars from it. Unzip and peel it down and find bloody armpits and neck.

Wetsuits became much better and instead of a neck seal on the suit, and a separate seal for the hood, which would cut off circulation like a mild choke hold, they came with built in hoods.

The Lobster claw gloves we used were 7mm. the gloves with individual fingers were much less warm and the dexterity not required. Likewise the split toe booties were not as warm as those that did not separate the big toe from the other 4. I had no issues but friends with long toes preferred the split toe.

I just wear my Shortjohn now, I have a 3/2 full suit, but have not worn it in a long time. I have not surfed in a long time. The crowds here are insane these days. So many beginners, all on their costco softtop surfboards, no skill, no etiquette, no idea. or clue, and much more entitlement and full blown ignorance than I can handle.

Bring on the colder water, scary winter swells, and shark sightings/encounters.

Screw this warm water, small soft waves bullshit , and AirB&B, and Face Book, and twitter.

Unless the latter 2 show pics/videos of Sharks circling clueless surfers on Chinese made, costco sold, softtop surfboards.
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Lol. I agree totally. Nixed FB and most other social media crap. Fiscally wasn’t smart but my mental mood improved.

Yeah wetsuit/drysuit design has come a long way since the 80’s. The Viking company actually stumbled into the venue. Their product was actually developed for doing work in toxic environments. Hot water from nuke plants and disaster response, toxic sewage etc etc. where a leak would give you a rash you don’t walk away from.

Commercial work meant hours underwater. Perhaps doing very little and like the octopus story not very deep. But cold water trickling in a neck seal and running down your spine goes from annoying to torture very quickly. Cold also decreases the body’s ability to off gas compressed gas breathing. Increasing your bend here curve.

Wetsuit grunge, I know surfers have a specific word for it...can’t remember it off the top of my head. Thank god I had a little money in those days and didn’t have to dive the rubber with baby powder route. People peeled those off and looked as if someone tried to make East Indian Pakoras out of Swedish Lutefisk. Lol.

I have no idea what the current tec is like for suits. Last time I stuck a reg in my mouth was in Maui. I didn’t use a suit just booties and gloves. My body composition is like that of a sea lion. I look like a Seal, and am at home in the water like a Seal. (Not SEAL). Fat and warm, lol. Also off-gas like I have 7% body fat, which is strange. Just proves the theory that compressed diving is a quasi science still to this day.

I only surfed once, with a pro teacher. I enjoyed it. But my fondest memories are still boogie boarding till my nipples bleed, and tummy looked like a cooked lobster as a child. Pismo Beach I think was the location. Great summer.


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